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Order of Speakers: **__Leann B (JP Morgan) done and i printed my copy. It's 6pgs long which may be a problem. So everyonr look at what they say and cut back whatever you can please!!!!__** Megan D (Alice Paul) **donee! but i feel like we need to make it sound more like a conversation, like make it flow more?!** Erica P (Rob La Follette) **done i agree w/megan...so ill probably come back on in a little bit** Christina H (Wilson) **DONEEEEEEEEEE:)))))))** Jess (Sanger) Im done. srry it took so long Nicole (Sinclair) Done. :D

Sinclair: Hello and welcome to Sitdown With Sinclair, and I’m your host Upton Sinclair. If you do not already know, I am a famous journalist who wrote the book __The Jungle__ about the Chicago slaughterhouses during the Progressive Era. My book was supposed to promote the Socialist Party but it ended up being more powerful in trying to improve working conditions and food produced in those factories. Because of this book, I helped many people and reformed the U.S. Now a days I am still writing and I have my talk show. Sadly my show is getting cancelled, so to honor my show, I am having some of my favorite guests come back and have a big group discussion about the impact we all had on the U.S. The first half of the show will be previous interviews with my guests and the second half will be an in depth discussion. Enjoy! Here is a flashback with: 1. JP Morgan 2. Alice Paul 3. Rob La Follette 4. Woodrow Wilson 5. Margaret Sanger Flash Back Script: **

Sinclair: So how are you today JP? JP: I’m good I’m good how are you? Sinclair: I’m doing great nice to see you. I’ve been waiting to have this interview with you for a while now. JP: Same here can’t wait to get the ball rolling. Sinclair: So I have to ask you JP what are you working on right now? JP: Well uh as you know in 1871 I partnered with Drexel to form the Drexel and Morgan Company and I’m happy to say that after that I transferred to my father’s banking company and then it officially became known as Morgan and Company. Sinclair: *claps* JP: Thank you it’s great. And recently I’ve been working on a merger with a man named Edison General from General Electric and with a man named Thompson Houston Electric Company to form the General Electric Company I don’t know how it’ll do but hopefully it will be good. Sinclair: Well you know I hear you’ve been making some money that’s good it’s a start. JP: Yes I have my last bank account thing right here, not much it’s a little over a hundred. Sinclair: Well you what it’s a start, it’s a great start. JP: Going on to bigger things. Sinclair: So is there any big thing you’re campaigning for or trying to change? JP: I think things should stay the way they are now. Social Darwinism is working for us now and the whole Laissez Faire, government staying out of our business seems to be working so let’s keep it that way. Sinclair: Okay then that’s really great you know I mean if that’s what you believe and everything. JP: It’s the only way I’m going to get to big places and I’ve got big dreams. Sinclair: And you want to be very successful. JP: Yes I do. Sinclair: So right now do you feel you’re becoming very successful? JP: I feel like right now I have the opportunity and I’m grabbing it and I’m going to go. Sinclair: And your making a big impact on society? JP: I will. Sinclair: Wow that is very great well thank you for coming JP it was nice to see you.
 * Flashback with JP:**

Sinclair: Why hello Alice how are you today? Alice Paul: I’m good. How are you? Sinclair: I’m great. So uhm could you just tell us a little about yourself like what you’ve been doing what you’ve been up to? Alice Paul: Well you know I spent a little time in Europe with a couple of other women and they taught me some aggressive tactics to bring back here to help support the Women’s Suffrage Movement because I have been a really strong supporter of that I’ve taken control of the National American Women’s Suffrage Association and I’ve been trying to campaign with them. As you might see my sign we had a little protest we hope we were as successful as we hope and we’ve been trying to pass Susan B. Anthony’s Bill which would give women the right to vote. Sinclair: Oh wow that is very moving see I think women should have the right to vote but you know so many men out there that are not like myself are just so against it and it is so wrong we should all be equal. So your saying that you want to pass this bill and everything do you think your possibly going to have a good impact on society and have become really successful possibly in the future? Alice Paul: I hope so I mean women really should deserve the right to vote and we hope that once they get the right to vote it will lead to better things for them so I’m hoping we can be successful that’s what I’m trying to do. Sinclair: So do you believe that you’re just doing for getting women’s votes or as well as women’s rights? Alice Paul: Well I think we need to get women the right to vote first and then hopefully after that we can move on and then get another amendment passed which would get them equal rights for everything else. Sinclair: That’s good though I’m really proud I’ve heard a lot of stuff about the reform and everything and I think its just going to go well but thank you very much for coming on the show it was nice talking to you about your movement dealing with women’s suffrage thank you. Alice Paul: Thanks for having me. Sinclair: Your welcome.
 * Flashback with Alice Paul:**

Sinclair: Why hello “Fighting Bob” how are you today? Follette: Hey Buddy! *interrupts* Follette: Oh I’m good how are you? Sinclair: Haven’t seen you in a while I hear your running for governor? Follette: I am. Sinclair: That’s great. What do you plan to do as governor? Follette: I want to take power away from corporations and people who are in charge and give power to the average person Sinclair: You seem not to like monopolies kind of thing am I correct? Follette: Yeah Sinclair: So Bob what do you want to reform? Follette: Well Upton I want to reform railroads definitely I want to if I could impose some taxes on the railroad companies to feel a little bit of pain. Sinclair: Do you feel you’ve been a little bit successful or are going to be successful? Follette: Yeah I have pretty good feeling about this you know people in Wisconsin love me. Sinclair: Oh well who couldn’t love you. Well you know good luck with running for governor and I hope you become very successful with your reforms. Follette: Hey well you’re going to have me come back on the show if I win. Sinclair: Of course your right, you hopefully will be the new governor nice seeing you. Follette: You too. Sinclair: Have a good day.
 * Flashback with Rob La Follette:**

Sinclair: Why hello Woodrow how are you today? Wilson: I’m pretty good how about you? Sinclair: So I was wondering if you could tell the audience a little bit about yourself? Wilson: Well my name is Woodrow Wilson. I am currently governor of New Jersey and I have a lot of optimistic views on the way America is going to go and hopefully I will win my presidency when my election happens and there are lot of things I want to reform. Sinclair: That’s really great. Can you give us some examples of what you want to reform? Wilson: Well I don’t see child labor as a very positive thing I child labor is very negative and children shouldn’t be working and I also I think 8 hour work days would be a better way to suit America. Sinclair: I agree you know I mean like its so rough on people you know what do you think about the conditions and everything personally with me I wrote the book The Jungle I don’t know if you have read it. Wilson: I have actually, great book. Sinclair: Thank you, thank you I try. But I mean with those conditions are so horrible in those Chicago packing yards. Wilson: That’s exactly what I want to change I don’t want those conditions to stay the same. Sinclair: I really appreciate that and I think my audience does too. So do you feel that you could possibly be really successful and possibly win the election? Wilson: Well I hope that staying positive will somehow makes me successful but I’m not absolutely positive about this but I think I can do this. Sinclair: Well you seem to have a really good head on your shoulders and I think you’re going to fly and pass with colors. Wilson: Why thank you. Sinclair: Your welcome it was nice seeing you. Wilson: Nice seeing you too. Sinclair: Have a good day! Wilson: You too.
 * flashback with woodrow wilson:**

**Sinclair:** Hello Margaret Sanger how are you today ? Well it was nice having you on the show; hope that your goals will be successful and hope to see you soon.
 * Flashback with Sanger: **
 * Sanger: ** I'm doing ok. I'm still going through a tough time right now with my family after the death of my young daughter. But we are dealing and getting through it together.
 * Sinclair: ** I’m sorry to hear about the death in your family but it is good you are getting through it. What have you been currently working on or are doing as of right now ?
 * Sanger: ** I am currently working as a nurse helping women who are living in poverty. It's so unbelievably sad how some of these poor women live. They have such large families and no way to support them because they can’t find jobs. Many children are abandoned and left for dead simply because the mothers can't afford to take care of them.
 * Sinclair: ** Seems like you have been doing a lot and are working to help women of our country. What are some of your goals that you are trying to work on to improve our country ?
 * Sanger: ** Right now my only goal is to find some way to help these women and maybe find a way for them to stop having children that they are not choosing to have. See you have to understand "No woman can call herself free who does not own and control her body. No woman can call herself free until she can choose consciously whether she will or will not be a mother."
 * Sinclair: **

1.) What have you all accomplished since last on the show?


 * JP:** I am happy to say, "When you expect things to happen - strangely enough - they do happen." Since then I have merged the Carnegie interests with other companies to create the United States Steel Corporation. This is what I call a trust; a specific type of organization/ any great economic combination. I am proud to say I helped create the first billion dollar corporation with this trust. As of now, I control over five thousand miles of American railroads. However, a couple of years ago, I started having some trouble with the government. President Roosevelt started trustbusting in 1902 by invoking the Sherman Antitrust Act against one of my companies. In the past I have had great, warm relationships with Republican administrations, so I told Roosevelt, "If we have done anything wrong, send your man to my man and they can fix it up." I don't want to waste time and energy fighting, when there are more important things to be done. But back on a good note, I was able to help construct a pool of assets from several New York banks to create a few financial institutions for the country after the Panic of 1907. A very important part that made this possible was my US Steel Trust purchasing shares of the Tennesee Coal and Iron Company. So I am proud to say I have been able to help myself and our country.

**La Follette**: ** Since I was last on this show, I became the Governor of Wisconsin and won re-election. I was able to tackle all of my goals and give more power to the common person. After being governor and reforming the state-level of government, I was elected as a U.S. Senator. While in the Senate, I became the head of Progressive Senators who advocated many reforms. I ran for the Presidential election but unfortunately, I had to withdraw from the race because I had a minor breakdown. I also founded my own magazine and wrote my autobiography. Let me read an excerpt from my autobiography, if you don't mind, 'And then I would tell them that we were trying to create in Wisconsin a railroad commission to which appeal could be made, instead of to a railroad official, for fair freight rates and adequate service. Then I would take the record of the last legislature on that question. I would say: "Now, I think you are entitled to know how your representative voted on this question. I am going to make no personal attack upon any individual, but he is your servant, and the servant of the people of this state....I am here today to lay before you his record, and let you decide whether that is the sort of service you want." ' Basically in that passage, I was trying to get across to the people that they are entitled to know how the government serves them and that they have a say in government. **

**Alice **: Well, the 19th amendment was finally passed! I am still excited over the fact that women finally received the right to vote. I then introduced the Equal Rights Amendment at Seneca Falls and have constantly been protesting towards getting this amendment passed. I will never give up on getting these rights passed. It is what I live for. And as I have said many times before, I believe that “there will never be a new world order until women are a part of it.”


 * Sanger:** Well like Alice I have also been working to make things better for the women of this country. As you remember I was working in the slums with women living in poverty who were having problems because they were having too many children. So I have been working to make contreception legal in the united states.It's been really hard trying work with congress and state government to make this happen. However I am proud to say that i have succeded in getting birth control to be legal and I have with the help of many others I have opened up over 300 Clinics around the country focused on contraceptives. Im also working on a new project that i'm thinking about calling planned parenthood. My hope is that it will become a program to help families and maybe decrease the rate of which our population is growing.


 * Wilson:** During the last show, I was nothing more than the Governor of New Jersey. Strangely, I have continued my optimism and became the 28th person to occupy Presidency.Of course it wasn't exactly on my agenda but I am a easy guy to persuade. I have passed many new acts, after persuading congress that our country needs change. Because of the Federal Reserve Act, Federal Reserve Notes were issued, paper money that is. In addition, the Clayton Antitrust Act, supported labor unions. I could continue on my accomplishments and acts passed by congress but that would be tedious. I still agree in saying "A great democracy will neither be great nor a democracy if it is not progressive." which is exactly why I did what I did during my presidency.

**Sinclair: Well as you all know this is my show and since the last time I interviewed most of you, my novel __The Jungle__ became very popular and had a powerful impact on society; but things in the meat packaging industry didn't change for a while. Finally Teddy Roosevelt made the Meat Inspection Act which later turned into the Pure Food and Drug Act. Because of the graphic details my book entitled food and drugs are inspected before they are given and sold. As I always say "I aimed for the public's heart and by accident I hit it in the stomach." Now i'm still working as a journalist and writer and im trying to promote the Socialist Party.**

2.) Who was the most successful in bringing about change?


 * Sanger:** I believe Alice was the most successful because she helped such a huge group of people who were really being over-looked. If it hadn't been for people like her, then women like myself would not be able to make a differnece in the government.

**Alice** : Thank you! I obviously agree with you that my actions have been very successful. I have not accomplished all my goals but we have made some huge improvements, such as the 19th Amendment. We finally don’t have to be control by all the men in the world! We can actually get some say in everything! Wouldn't you all agree?


 * Sinclair:** I believe that Wilson had big shoes to fill in as president after Roosevelt and Taft and that he was the most succesful. His efforts in reform helped a lot and he helped myself with the food type of acts that were made because he kept them going and was sure to check that the conditions and safety in the meat packing industry was improved. He also helped many reformers not just myself. But no matter what we all made an impact on society.


 * La Follette:** I also think that Woodrow Wilson was the most successful. Don't get me wrong, Alice's efforts had a profound impact on women's right to vote, but Woodrow made many reforms that benefitted everyone. Woodrow's reforms benefitted both men and women, not only women**.

Wilson:** Thank you. I appreciate the fact that you recognize my efforts. My goal is to benefit different people in various ways. One of the ways I put my goal into action was the creation of the Federal Trade Commission Act, ensuring the inspection of companies. After Sinclair informed me of the awful working conditions, I felt it was necessary to improve the conditions in places such as meatpacking and railroad industries. And Upton is absolutely correct in saying that I had big shoes to fill. But I am glad you see my efforts as effective.


 * JP:** I believe you all brought about change, but you hurt people like me who try to help keep the country together when you changed it. I feel like there could have been a different way to approach some of your reforms, that would have kept our country more in tact.

3.) So do we believe that women were benefitted the most?


 * La Follette:** While women benefitted largely by gaining the right to vote, I would have to say that the common person benefited the most. I gave power to the people in Wisconsin and Woodrow Wilson passed many reforms, like an 8 hour work day, to benefit the common worker.


 * JP** I feel like everyone but bankers, companies, and large corporations bennefited the most and not just women in general.


 * Wilson:** Women in many ways benefited the most from this era, most obviously and importantly by retaining the same social status of the men. That is a huge step up for women and the country. But I will stick with my thoughts and say that the common people benefited the most from this era, including the women.


 * Alice:** **Thank you all for finally mentioning women! I think we did benefit fit the most and I am proud to think that because of me we have all finally realized that women needed their lives to be improved in order to benefit the country and themselves. I didn't stand outside of the White House or create the World's Woman's Party for nothing!**


 * Sanger:** I agree completely with Alice. Women were barely even acknowledge before she started working towards her goals of equal rights for women. An 8 hour day may be really great but giving women the right to vote and allowing them to have a say in the government is quite a bit larger.

Sinclair: My movement, even though in the beginning it was to get people to join the Socialist Party,which was mostly aimed towards everyone. But I felt that after my book was written and published I was helping give benefits to the labor workers in trying to help them have better conditions. Also, I feel that everyone benefitted because people were eating the meat from the unsanitary places which made them ill, so by warning them and improving the conditions and food produced, I saved men, women and children but not so much the common person because mostly everyone at meat and I wanted everyone to join the Socialist party and be aware of what was going on during this time.

4.) Do any of you believe that you guys hurt or benefitted each other?

**Alice**: Well, “Mr. President how long must women wait to get their liberty? Let us have the rights we deserve.” I have told people over and over again that “Wilson was the one who kept us out of suffrage.” Why would you want to keep us from our equal rights as well? What makes you think that you could stop us?


 * Wilson:** That is very true Alice Paul, but you are looking back to the beginning of my presidency. It was a very large step to include women into the activities that men deal with. But after your //insulting// picketing of the White House, //while I was leading the country at a war//, I agreed to sign the Anthony Amendment. And after you were imprisoned, I was the one to release you, so how can your feelings remain so negative of me? I believe that I helped all of you achieve your goals. Could you imagine a President who didn't pass things such as the 19th amendment, or the inspection of companies wouldn't be necessary. Over all I believe that I helped everyone. Including Alice Paul and her campaign for women's suffrage.


 * Alice**: Well my feelings still remain negative because you slowed down the process of us women making advancements. Who knows where we would be today if you helped us a little bit sooner. You changed your mind after we kept protesting and trying to get you to support us. I still question whether or not you fully support us.

**Sanger:** I believe that i helped Alice Paul in reaching her goal by raising more awareness of women's rights as I faught for our right to control our own bodies and make our own choices. It is a women's choice to become a mother. that's why i believed so strongly that birth control should be allowed and talked about in medical schools.


 * La Follette:** I believe that I hurt business monopolizers like J.P. Morgan. One of my major areas of reform was to regulate the railroads and bringing other corporations under public control. I was looking out for the common man and to do so, I had to hurt big business owners.


 * JP:** I am constantly getting hurt by the acts and laws the government is creating. Everything was fine before Progressives started changing the way our government works, and when the country needed help, we would help. I didn't see anything wrong with what we had before.

Sinclair: Sadly we all hurt each other it seems. I mean I haven't come into conflict with any of you personally, but it looks as though because we all had different reforms and wanted different things, we effected each other due to trying to destroy someone's plan or in the end have a bigger impact then others.

5.) Do we believe our reforms are all connected? If so why?

**Wilson:** ** “ A vision has been (shown to) us of our life as a whole. We see the bad with the good. . . With this vision we approach new affairs. Our duty is to cleanse, to reconsider, to restore, to correct the evil. . . to purify and humanize every process of our common life..” These positive changes being made are not subjective to just the women, or to just the labor unions, Rather America as a whole. Everybody but JP Morgan was expecting reforms that would change life. **


 * La Follette:** I completely agree with Woodrow. I think that all of the reforms were done to benefit the entire country; so no matter what the reforms were about, whether it was the the length of the work day or regulating the railroads, they all benefitted the people of the United States.

Alice: Excuse me, Bob. You didn't mention women. Yes, all the reforms were connected and shoprtening work days and regulating railroads is important, but I think the women deserve some mentioning. I fought for all the women of our country and have even gone to jail for them! I put my life on the line for every single woman. We can't forget about them! We still need to keep helping them.

Sinclair: Over all the reforms are all connected. Most of us can agree with this except for J.P Morgan because he didn't care about the people he just wanted the best for himself not others. I fought to make the U.S. safer and save peoples lives informing them that they needed to be safe and know what was going on where their food was made, if i didn't our food industry would have never changed. Most of the progressive reformers at this discussion fought for others not just themselves and fought for the better of our country.

JPS QUESTION__ . If the world revolves around money, shouldn't banks and companies have the most power?


 * Wilson:** "The government, which was designed for the people, has got into the hands of the bosses and their employers, the special interests. An invisible empire has been set up above the forms of democracy." When we start to let the companies and the bankers take over the country, we lose our say and further turn the country into something we are not. The gilded age we just went through was all about the good showing and the bad hiding. From all of the people that suffered in this time frame and no one knew about it, we just don't want to turn our country into something like that permanently.

Sanger: This country isn't just about money. It's also about the people who live here. With out the people companies and banks couldn't exist so no I disagree. The power shoiuld lie in the a government run by the people of this country.

Sinclair: We should all have a right to power because we all live in America and all should be treated equal. We had banks and companies controlling the world and our country but that didn't get us anywhere it just hurt us more which started all the reforming from the progressives. If companies and banks have the most power we have no control and we will lose everything.

Closing Statement: Sinclair: Well there you have it; the people sitting beside me on my talk show really had a strong impact on society whether it was in reforming or not. Thank you all for coming on my show one last time and thank you, the people of the audience for watching the show. I hope you enjoyed my series finale. Good-bye.

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